tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2159101388355001570.post6740634411820049151..comments2023-09-06T01:08:43.420-07:00Comments on Wesleyan Arminian: Calvinist Proof Text Series: Romans 9 (part 1)Kevin Jacksonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13472900037134045450noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2159101388355001570.post-35834622616674333572008-10-11T20:51:00.000-07:002008-10-11T20:51:00.000-07:00Beowulf, good point. Thanks for stopping by.Beowulf, good point. Thanks for stopping by.Kevin Jacksonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13472900037134045450noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2159101388355001570.post-77278246563675426872008-10-11T20:05:00.000-07:002008-10-11T20:05:00.000-07:00Not only is the election or relative rejection of ...Not only is the election or relative rejection of Ishmael/Isaac, Esau/Jacob, not about their salvation but about special benefits, but it is also nothing more than an example to prove the overall point of 9:8 "That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed." There is a clear connection between this teaching and the allegory of Galatians 4 in both which he shows that fleshly descendants of Abraham were weeded out of physical blessings in the past, to vindicate God for weeding fleshly descendants out of salvation in the present because of their unbelief. Ishmael allegorically represents unbelievers and Isaac allegorically represents believers, in order to show that God is under no obligation to save all fleshly Israel in spite of their lack of belief nor to damn all the Gentiles in spite of the belief.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2159101388355001570.post-13663833656639500672008-09-23T15:18:00.000-07:002008-09-23T15:18:00.000-07:00Bingo, for all the right reasons! Do Calvinists ev...Bingo, for all the right reasons! Do Calvinists ever see the context of Romans 9 as being God guiding history through election rather than populating heaven by it? You've whetted my appetite.SLWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04260137021205685080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2159101388355001570.post-69896884904230594072008-09-23T11:26:00.000-07:002008-09-23T11:26:00.000-07:00Thanks for the comments guys.Mike, I added you to ...Thanks for the comments guys.<BR/><BR/>Mike, I added you to my blog role. I like what I've read of Cottrel's work. "What the Bible says about God the Ruler" is on my wish list.Kevin Jacksonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13472900037134045450noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2159101388355001570.post-90765342639451015262008-09-23T09:55:00.000-07:002008-09-23T09:55:00.000-07:00I appreciate the post and look forward to future p...I appreciate the post and look forward to future posts on the subject. I'm currently blogging on Perspectives on Election ed. Chad Owen Brand. If you haven't done so, it might be something to check out.<BR/><BR/>Blessings,<BR/>MikeCrowmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17972336038762974441noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2159101388355001570.post-10592069559738718352008-09-22T17:06:00.000-07:002008-09-22T17:06:00.000-07:00Good post. I am looking forward to the rest of th...Good post. I am looking forward to the rest of the series. Your explanation reminds me of Adam Clark's. <BR/><BR/>God be with you,<BR/>DanGodismyjudgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05310455924556730920noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2159101388355001570.post-81105398011243471512008-09-22T07:54:00.000-07:002008-09-22T07:54:00.000-07:00Quite frankly, you've already tread where no Calvi...Quite frankly, you've already tread where no Calvinist has gone before, treating Romans 9:1-5Jc_Freak:https://www.blogger.com/profile/14780031497091443526noreply@blogger.com